Estelle Morris and Tim Smit discuss education and the environment Estelle Morris and Tim Smit have a wide-ranging discussion beginning with Tim’s own education and early career in archaeology then in the music industry. They discuss taking risks, the Lost Gardens of Heligan and the concept and evolution of The Eden Project the first and only ‘rock and roll’ scientific foundation. Tim talks of environmentalism, community, cultural change and putting the delight back into education. They discuss the Eden project’s take on teaching and learning, fusing technology, the arts and science with humanities, but most importantly, adding enjoyment. They talk politics and whether Britain is on the right track with education and environmentalism.